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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] concrete submarine yacht - building cost



I'm envisioning a ball valve in the open position, with the ball modified to carry a shaft where the hole in the ball would be. Is that basically what we're talking about?
 
:)
 
Alec


From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:00 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] concrete submarine yacht - building cost

Joe, Okay, if you insist. The mechanical thru-hull was a ball and socket in the Nektons, tested for 1000 & 1100--although they got a pretty severe case of arthritis beyond 500 or 600, according to those who knew. Vance
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: joeperkel@hotmail.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] concrete submarine yacht - building cost

Frank, 
 
Even though I'm eliminating (two) rotating shafts by using fixed verticals, in lieu of the standard K-350 set up. I will be retaining one rotating thru-hull for the steering linkage, and another for the distress buoy release. 
 
You would be correct in worrying about such penetrations for something permanently docked but,what makes me feel better about this, is that Nekton (I believe) uses rotating penetrations down to 2 K. 
 
Vance may correct me on this but, I seem to remember reading that one of the boats uses a manual manipulator through a standard gland nut packing arrangement down to 2000'. 
 
This makes me feel a whole lot better about these at my dinky depths. 
 
Joe 
 
 
>From: ShellyDalg@aol.com 
>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] concrete submarine yacht - building cost 
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:05:42 EST 

>I'm not an expert plumber, but if a shaft seal fails while your sub is 
>docked, stored, or just parked at the dock....It sinks. 
>I know the efficiency of a hydraulic system is somewhat less than a direct 
>drive, but a hydraulic through-hull fitting, with exterior hydraulic >thrusters 
>( available as off the shelf ) has a long history of reliability, is easy >to 
>maintain, and also easy to monitor/fix. 
>And then we can consider the magnetic couplers available on hazardous 
>pumping installations. 
>There is virtually no leaks, no loss of power from conversion from 
>electrical to mechanical to hydraulic to mechanical, and really no >maintenance of the 
>coupler. 
>Here in California, there is a pumping station supplying millions of >gallons 
>of water into the California aqueduct and it's been upgraded with magnetic 
>couplers. 
>The horsepower is very large, and the maintenance is quite low. 
>Sorry for interrupting on this thread, but I just don't like the idea of a 
>spinning shaft under 200 feet of water. 
>There's got to be a better way.......Frank D. 
 
 
 
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