My thoughts exactly Rick. It gets up to 33 degrees fahrenheit here and I think it's tee shirt weather.
Cheers,
Brent
From: "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:34:02 -0800
>POOR POOR BABY!!! 52 degrees!!!!
>
>Watch it , Joe, you have CANADIANS and SCANDINAVIANS on this list ;-)
>
>
>Rick L
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:17 AM
>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
>
>
> > Brent,
> >
> > The 42" hull is based on an offhand comment by Vance regarding minimum
> > comfort. But I look at Persistence and her trailer and see that extra
>weight
> > as a big minus. Still, too tight for changing clothes though.
> >
> > Incidentally, it was 52 deg in Miami the other day, we broke out the
>parkas
> > and lit the imitation fireplace! :), My Mango tree got a little wilted.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > >From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:16:48 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Yo Joe,
> > >
> > >What happened to having a 42" hull??? : )' Are you going to build a Sgt.
> > >Pepper II? I'd like to see Carsten put on a dry suit inside of Sgt.
>Pepper
> > >and then try to get it off with out a knife. It would be so funny he
>would
> > >need to put it on You Tube .com. Enjoy your warm weather Joe, it's so
>cold
> > >here the grizzly bears moved into my garage to finish hibernating. My dog
> > >don't like it at all.
> > >
> > >Brent
> > >
> > >"What can I say, I'm a submarine half full of the good smoke, kind of
>guy."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:43:06 +0000
> > > >
> > > >Brent,
> > > >
> > > >That is too too funny! I don't know about you but, my arms need to
> > > >flail in a 6' diameter whenever putting on a wet suit! :) ....and
> > > >getting the thing off....a 12' diameter!!
> > > >
> > > >Joe
> > > >
> > > >>From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
> > > >>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > >>Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:37:45
> > >-0800
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>It always seemed to me that a PSUB should have dry suits and/or wet
> > > >>suits, along with SCUBA gear for all on board for leaving a flooded
> > > >>sub. Of course putting on wet suits in a small sub is a challenge
> > > >>but it can be done. I wish the military subs of the world would
> > > >>design there submarines so that all personnel on board can leave
> > > >>the sub in a dry 1 ATM escape pods. The escape pods can be inside
> > > >>the subs hull just like the triton missiles are, but with allot of
> > > >>hatch and other systems of course. Even if the submarine is one
> > > >>it's side the pods would be designed to still able to exit. I've
> > > >>been thinking about a PSUB design were the main pressure hull can
> > > >>detach from the main supper
> > >structure and float to the surface, if
> > > >>your supper structure is entangled or other issues.
> > > >>
> > > >>Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >>Brent
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
> > > >>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > >>Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:03:25 +0000
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Oystein,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>We have discussed this at length, and is always worthwhile as a
> > > >>discussion to be revisited. The general consensus is as you say,
> > > >>self rescue is the best course.
> > > >>
> > > >>You simply need to be able to get out of a flooded sub. Saturation
> > > >>issues aside for
> > >a moment, even here in Florida, exposure can be an
> > > >>issue...in Norway....I don't even want to think about it!
> > > >>
> > > >>A non-flooded casualty (entanglement), with sufficient reserve and
> > > >>surface communication, you might evaluate the situation for
> > > >>external help if risk is negligible (depth?).
> > > >>
> > > >>The marker buoy in my case is to serve two purposes..1) keep
> > > >>vessels clear of the downed sub 2) mark it for recovery.
> > > >>
> > > >>Joe
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>From: "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com>
> > > >>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > >>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
> > > >>Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:00:23 +0100
> > > >>
> > > >Have anyone considered the probability to be rescued in case of
> > > >>an
> > > >> >emergency in submerged stage ? A distress buoy can help getting
> > > >> >attention, but what else? I think submariners in psubs needs to
> > > >>be
> > > >> >able to rescue them self. Up here in Norway, we have no rescue
> > > >> >vessels
> > > >> >for quick response in matters like this. Looking back to the
> > > >>rescue
> > > >> >of
> > > >> >KURSK, we are talking about days before rescue arrives. Thoughts
> > > >> >anyone?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >--
> > > >> >Vennlig hilsen
> > > >> >Øystein
> > > >>Skarholm
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
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