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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress




Brent,

That is too too funny! I don't know about you but, my arms need to flail in a 6' diameter whenever putting on a wet suit! :) ....and getting the thing off....a 12' diameter!!

Joe

From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:37:45 -0800


It always seemed to me that a PSUB should have dry suits and/or wet suits, along with SCUBA gear for all on board for leaving a flooded sub. Of course putting on wet suits in a small sub is a challenge but it can be done. I wish the military subs of the world would design there submarines so that all personnel on board can leave the sub in a dry 1 ATM escape pods. The escape pods can be inside the subs hull just like the triton missiles are, but with allot of hatch and other systems of course. Even if the submarine is one it's side the pods would be designed to still able to exit. I've been thinking about a PSUB design were the main pressure hull can detach from the main supper structure and float to the surface, if your supper structure is entangled or other issues.

Regards,

Brent




From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:03:25 +0000




Oystein,



We have discussed this at length, and is always worthwhile as a discussion to be revisited. The general consensus is as you say, self rescue is the best course.

You simply need to be able to get out of a flooded sub. Saturation issues aside for a moment, even here in Florida, exposure can be an issue...in Norway....I don't even want to think about it!

A non-flooded casualty (entanglement), with sufficient reserve and surface communication, you might evaluate the situation for external help if risk is negligible (depth?).

The marker buoy in my case is to serve two purposes..1) keep vessels clear of the downed sub 2) mark it for recovery.

Joe




From:  "Øystein Skarholm" <skarholm@gmail.com>
Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject:  [PSUBS-MAILIST] Psub in distress
Date:  Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:00:23 +0100
>Have anyone considered the probability to be rescued in case of an
>emergency in submerged stage ? A distress buoy can help getting
>attention, but what else? I think submariners in psubs needs to be
>able to rescue them self. Up here in Norway, we have no rescue
>vessels
>for quick response in matters like this. Looking back to the rescue
>of
>KURSK, we are talking about days before rescue arrives. Thoughts
>anyone?
>
>--
>Vennlig hilsen
>Øystein
Skarholm
>
>
>
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