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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Perry lockout



Brent.

"a diver access hatch that can open into the pressure hull, instead of down and into the water like the one Kraka has"

.....Use the physical world to your safety advantage and open out/down.

" It looked like the main hatch area was to be turned by hand, but if that's the case I don't know how they would get a tight seal"

.....The lugs, are most likely machined with a bevel, not much of an angle mind you, but enough to get a snug fit. Perhaps he can comment.

Joe




From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Perry lockout
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:27:09 -0800

I'm interested in the locking ring hatch (LRH) for a number of different applications. I believe I've come up with a economical way of building my own LRH's. When I get the CAD work done I'll post it. The first item I wish to put a LRH on is a small one person 2 ATM hyperbaric chamber with the hatch opening towards the outside. The second item would be a Kraka sized sub with a diver access hatch that can open into the pressure hull, instead of down and into the water like the one Kraka has currently. The type used on Kraka is easier to manufacture and looks like it works very nicely, but I was just looking at the differences. The bottom access hatch in Carsten's diver lockout (DLO) has a different design then the Russian type I've seen. The pic I've seen of it was when it was not totally finished so I don't know if he added a gear system to rotate the hatch about it's center point by having the gears attached to the hatches head and hinge towards the outer area of the head. It looked like the main hatch area was to be turned by hand, but if that's the case I don't know how they would get a tight seal. Also with that style I would guess that you would need to grease up the O-ring so as the hatch head was rotated into the O-ring it would slide.

The third project I'm designing is a Carstenesque sized sub with a DLO much like what the Euronaut currently has. I don't know what his DLO can handle in the way of internal pressure but it looks very strong. He's using a two hatch system for the DLO between the 1 ATM main crew compartment area and the DLO. I was thinking that if I used the LRH type I wouldn't need the double door set up on my DLO.

Do you have any close up pictures or mechanical drawings of the hatches used on the Perry submersibles? Do you know what amount of pressure can be safely handled on either side of the Perry sub's double action hatch's?

Regards

Brent




From: vbra676539@aol.com
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Perry lockout
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:57:32 -0500


Brent,
I'm not sure why you'd need a double acting hatch between the DLO and a 1 atm. section of the boat. On a military sub, they use that kind of hatch to separate sections of the sub in case of flooding. They will hold from either side, yes, but why would you want that in a psub? Maybe you are thinking Carstenesque in size, a BIG psub, and if so, we're talking apples and oranges here, as I was thinking of a small one. If you have a sub big enough for duplicate controls and flooded your crew compartment, but were able to scramble into the DLO, then you could theoretically surface the boat. The JSLs, for instance, have ballast controls in the DLO, and require a trained tech back there on every dive, so that if the pilot becomes disabled, he can blow the tanks. I'm shooting in the dark here, until I figure out the whys on your design.
Vance
Vance





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