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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Diesels



Let us know when they do go up - being there is exciting

Rick L


----- Original Message -----
From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Diesels


> "Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net> schrieb:
> > OK, Carsten - that does it.  We want photos, pictures, video - ALL OF
IT!!!
> > The whole adventure . . .
> >
> > Will you be posting these online?
> >
> > Rick L
> > Vancouver
>
> Hi Rick I have some pictures - but there is no offical
> Psub adress were I can post them myself. Maybe Emile will later
> show some of them on his peppers webside.
>
> Next adventure will be maybe looking for a
> shoot down WWII US-Bomber in a german lake at 300.
>
> regrads Carsten
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Diesels
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi submadmans, just back from an 10 days trip in the north sea on a
> > dive-trawler together with Sgt.Peppers. Boats performce well in both
seas-
> > the Baltic and the North Sea. With the new pressure tight Divingcell
foam in
> > the sattletanks-endcap and the stern the boat can carry a higher payload
and
> > even my 83 Kg / 182 pound heavy friend Stefan can now run the boat. The
> > little new videoskops run fine and gives the boat a much much better
> > performance on the surface with waves - because the hatch can be closed
all
> > the time. Boat has now a bilge pump, emergency battery - and a quick
battery
> > change switch. All vales and instruments and checklist in the inside now
of
> > a permanent type and even a newbie but scuba-diver can dive the boat
after a
> > 15 minutes instruction. Boat has a new set of propellers also. Traler
was
> > stern-trawler type and we carry the sub on his road trailer to handle it
on
> > the deck up to under the A-frame-crane on the stern. No poblems.
> > >
> > > Back too the relate item :
> > > I run 40 feet Kraka together with peter two times. First time was in
2005
> > with the big Diesel behind a sound-bulkhead. But maintance was
impossible
> > and after some mechanical trouble because of poor maintance the boat was
> > rebuild. Secoind time I run it Aug.2006 the diesel is now a very compact
> > modern small one and the sound bulkhead is gone - maintance is easy
now -
> > and the noise during surfac run is high. We wear ear protection all the
> > time.
> > > But on the othe side - Peter runs the boat to the open sea for more
than
> > 24 hours - no pure electric battery boat can do that.
> > >
> > > Best Regrads Carsten
> > >
> > >
> > > <vbra676539@aol.com> schrieb:
> > > > Interesting stuff. Perry built a separate motor unit for diesel
power on
> > the old Deep Diver. They operated it, but the boys said it was an
infernal
> > nuisance, and the thing was moldering in the scrap pile over on 10th
Street
> > by the time I saw it. I think the engine ended up in somebody's boat,
and
> > the pressure vessel cut up for scrap. I don't think they ever tried it
> > again. Not in my hearing, anyway. Vance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bottomgun@mindspring.com
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Sent: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 7:41 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] newbie questions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > While visiting George in the winter of 1978-79, I had the
opportunity to
> > review this submersible and meet the two gentlemen for whom it was
> > commissioned.  The sub was purpose built with a lengthened, flanged hull
> > sealed with a rubber gasket and numerous bolts to aid in maintenance of
the
> > diesel.  The sub was headed to Alaska for commercial and salvage work.
As
> > there was much ice out on the local waterways, the owners were able to
> > practice submersible ops with a K-250 in a large tank next to George’s
sub
> > construction barn.  I also was able to play in the K-250 towards the end
of
> > the day.  I received no instruction at all, George figured since I had
spent
> > time on subs that I would be safe (almost did not make it up on my last
> > surfacing effort as the scuba tanks were running dry J).  Crashed with
the
> > owners at a motel in Rocklin where we consumed a fair amount of beer
> > swapping sub stories.
> > > >
> > > > A few years later, met up with the sub owners once again.  While
they
> > wouldn’t speak poorly of their expensive investment, there were issues
with
> > extreme noise, exhaust fumes, and diesel fumes that made operating the
sub
> > to its fullest capabilities impossible.  Shortly after the sub was
listed
> > for sale and must not have sold readily as the ads were listed for quite
> > some time.  Seems to me the asking price was $450K.  Believe it was
finally
> > sold but don’t know for how much.
> > > >
> > > > While I would love to have a sub like this have learned that it isn’
t
> > really practical in the typical PSUB.  Reading operational accounts of
some
> > of the early Nordenfeld (SP?), Holland, and others along with the
Japanese
> > small submersibles leads me to believe it takes a larger sub to safely
mount
> > a diesel.  Even the X-craft had many troubles related to diesels in
their
> > small confines.
> > > > R/Jay
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully,
> > > > Jay K. Jeffries
> > > > Andros Is., Bahamas
> > > >
> > > > Natura nihil fit in frustra
> > > > - Nature does nothing in vain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Smyth, Alec
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:01 PM
> > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > > > Subject: RE: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] newbie questions
> > > >
> > > > I've heard George cut the hull towards the stern and put flanges on
each
> > > > of the two parts to bolt it together, but I have no idea if he had t
o
> > > > lengthen it -- in a photo it looks the same as a normal K-350. He
had a
> > > > snorkel that looks about 3-4 feet tall behind the coning tower. The
> > > > snorkel had a poppet valve at the top to shut it off upon
submerging,
> > > > but also of course a hull stop on the inside. The snorkel was not
piped
> > > > to the engine, it simply allowed air into the cabin and the diesel
took
> > > > air from the cabin atmosphere. Cooling was via sea water. Exhaust
was
> > > > into the water. Transmission via a standard marine gearbox with
forward
> > > > and reverse. I have only seen a photo, and spoken to George about it
> > > > briefly, so that's the sum total of what I know about the diesel
> > > > electric K-350. Do we have anyone on the list who has actually seen
it
> > > > in person?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Alec
> > > >
> > > >
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