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 Hi Phil. 
  
Thanks for the info on cast subs. I had no idea 
there were actually cast subs out there already built. 
In all my reading I have never come across any of 
them. I guess my idea wasn't so crazy after all. 
With all the advancements in casting technology 
perhaps we will see more and more cast subs 
built in the future. Again, thanks for the info. 
Now I'm just waiting to see someone build a sub out of 
a propane tank encased in concrete. 
Bill Akins. 
  
  
  
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:10 
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  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Brass vs. 
  Bronze 
  
  Re: Cast hulls and Deepflight 
  !:         Coincidently ( to this post) 
  I have Deepflight sitting next to some of the first Deep-Water cast 
  aluminum hulls made, in the sub museum storage area - The alum. sub is a 
  high speed hunter/killer called 'Moray' that was built at the China Lake, 
  California in  1964. Six 60" hemis were cast (four to form the twin 
  hull spheres and two to be tested to failure) with a nominal 1.5 inch 
  thickness and hatch and port/penetrator plate bosses four times that thick. 
  Moray was conservatively designed for  a 6,000 foot working depth and 
  a cruise speed in excess of 15 knots. The sub had a potential depth rating 
  more than double the 6K figure and the 100 hp torpedo motor that is its 
  main propulsor easily reached speeds of 20 knots in trials and had a 
  theoretical maxiimum considerably in excess off that figure. You can check 
  it out in Will Foreman's book om US subs - also 
  in Busby.         Cast hulls are far 
  from unique - the Newtsuits are cast of 6061-T alum. and have a minimum 
  wall thickness (in the torso) of 3/8" - = the 1250 foot depth rating is 
  conservative - we tested one of the first hulls to failure well in excess 
  of 3500 feet. The new Exosuit is cast alum. plus titanium and composite 
  fiber. The Wasps were cast alum. plus mandrel wound GRP (fibreglas) and so 
  on. The battery pods on our subs DeepWorker are forged alum. and titanium - 
  although they could easily have been cast at a weight 
  penalty..         No mysteries in cast 
  hulls -  just a question of size,weight,desired depth - in other words 
  - the usual trade-offs.  Don't forget the 'Mother of all cast sub hulls' - 
  Aluminaut! Phil Nuytten 
 
 
 
 
  
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