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 joe  
    if you are going to use the main 
cabin as a ballast tank remember to bring your soap and rubber 
ducky 
  
rick 
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  Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:53 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
  "Frankenboot" 
  
  
  
  
 
  
   Paul, 
  
  
  Yes, Dan is correct in the "reverse" thinking idea, I will apply that very 
  concept. I still am looking at the main cabin as a ballast tank idea. I am 
  envisioning interior space that has dual use as cabin and main ballast if that 
  is possible. 
  You guys need to remember something. As a neophyte, some of my initial 
  ideas will appear ridiculous only to be eventually discarded for what actually 
  works. In the meantime, enjoy a little chuckle at my expense. 
  Joe
 
   
  
  
     
    From:  Paul Kreemer 
    <paulkreemer@gmail.com> Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject:  Re: 
    [PSUBS-MAILIST] "Frankenboot" Date:  Mon, 14 Nov 2005 
    11:46:06 -0800 
     Joe, just writing to put in a plug for Dan's suggestion: that 
    you first 
    consider the displacement of your minimally sized dry compartment 
    and 
    then treat the rest of the vessel as a fairing.  The fairing 
    would 
    add some displacement, especially being built of plywood but 
    you'd have 
    to get the whole thing into your target displacement.  The 
    first 
    step would be to choose your desired dry weight and/or crew 
    compartment 
    volume.  (10,000lb? which is almost 160cf.) 
     
    You could add in your maybe 30% reserve buoyancy (48cf) for good 
    surface operation but those are just variable ballast tanks, 
    mostly for 
    surface use and emergency surfacing, right?  They wouldn't 
    add to 
    the displacement of the boat and the whole thing really would 
    weigh 
    10,000lb on a trailer.  
     
    This seems like a better way to describe a WWII-style homebuilt 
    that 
    will be good on the surface - a modest pressure compartment with 
    a big 
    free-flooding fairing.  You could do a big deck and 
    superstructure 
    like on that nice S-44 replica, but you would need some 
    propulsion 
    power to move such a rig submerged! 
     
    Please correct me if I'm wrong on this - certainly there are 
    different ways to approach the design process. 
     
     
    Paul 
     
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    Dan H. wrote:  
     
    Maybe 
    your only planning to build a small pressure hull with a 
    big  fairing 
    for your subs appearance.  If so, then your displacement is 
    only your 
    pressure hull and the fairing can be free flooding and not part 
    of your 
    displacement equation at all. 
     
     
    
    
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