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 Rick, 
  
   I don't know what technically makes the metal 
more brittle, I only know it does.  I think it's possible that due to 
the negative charge put into the metal for an extended period of time 
from the plating process actually forces the molecules apart due to like 
forces repulsing each other.  This is just my theory.  
  
    There is actually no heat involved in the 
plating process.  It's all done electrically by submerging the plated piece 
in a disolved chromium bath.  The piece to be plated is given a neg 
charge while the disolved chromium in the bath is charged pos.  The 
chromium then gets attracted to the metal and coates it in microscopic 
layers.  This same process is used for all kinds of plating. 
  
   I did an experiment with a chrome plated piece of 
steel (I don't know the composition of this piece) round stock 1" thick and bent 
it in a 20 ton press.  The chrome plated piece broke before the non chrome 
plated piece.  I had always heard that chrome pieces were more brittle but 
I wanted to see for myself.  I saw. 
  
   I don't think chrome plated metal has any 
place on a sub. 
  
Myles. 
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  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:01 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stainless 
  hatch ring 
  
  
  myles  
    
        what causes it to become more 
  brittle not enough heat to effect temper 
    
  rick m 
  
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    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:37 
    PM 
    Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stainless 
    hatch ring 
    
  
    Gents, 
      
       The chrome plating process makes the 
    metal more brittle.  Brittle in sub = bad.  Save the shiny stuff 
    for other things. 
      
    Myles. 
    
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      Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 
      3:17 PM 
      Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
      Stainless hatch ring 
      
  
      brian how about just plate the ring with 
      chrome. 
      rick m 
      
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        Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 
        12:59 PM 
        Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
        Stainless hatch ring 
        
  
        Brian, 
          
        I think you're fine as is. The one 
        that's really nice to have in stainless is the ring that your hatch 
        lands on, because in getting in and out you scratch tha paint very 
        easily there. But that said, all the home built subs I've seen so far 
        have steel lands due to the cost of a large stainless ring. The "pro" 
        subs have SS there, we just repaint.  
          
        rgds, 
          
        Alec 
        
          
          
          When I put together my domed hatch ( in my machining class)  
          I first had the hemisphere fabricated and then I had a 2" ring welded 
          to the edge of the hemisphere.    At the time I 
          was not really clear on how everything was going to come together 
          and now in hind sight I realize that the 2" ring that I welded on 
          should have been stainless steel instead of what I used.  
           
            
          My question is,  can I fabricate a stainless ring 
          and connect it to what I have now ?   I could remove 
          some of that material ( the ring part ) which is 3/4" thick so as 
          to reduce the weight.  I'm afraid if I don't make that ring part 
          thinner the hatch will be too dam heavy. 
            
          If I do add this new stainless ring should I just weld it to the 
          existing ring?  and then put it in a giant lathe and machine it 
          true? 
            
          Here is a picture of the hatch cover: 
            
          
            
          Thanks  
            
          Brian      
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