| 
 Hi, Joe - 560 cu.ft. is about 35,800 lb. of 
buoyancy.  That's quite a bit.  :-) 
  
Once neutral buoyancy was achieved, dynamic control 
(i.e.: planes) maintained depth.  The HP air was more than enough to 
get the boats back up in case of planes failure or even partial 
flooding. 
  
As far as limiting your posts to a time when 
 "flatter curves" would be appropriate, keep in mind that, as far as I 
know, our archives are listed by date and by thread, not by key word 
search.  As long as we, the "pro's", neglect to label our subject headings 
appropriately, please feel free to ask all the ridiculous questions you 
want. 
  
As far as archival searches are concerned, I'm sure 
Ray would love to spend thousands of hours (!?) labeling each and every post 
from the past six or seven years according to design ethic, systems analysis, 
materials science, commercial suppliers, fluid dynamics, parts availability, 
hydrodynamics, conceptual rationale, human engineering, etc. 
  
I hope everyone realises that, besides being 
impossible, the only thing almost as hard as codifiying the archives is finding 
the proverbial needle in the haystack. 
  
Again, as above, please feel free to ask all the 
ridiculous questions you want. 
  
Rick 
Vancouver 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:02 
  AM 
  Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Some 
issues 
  
  
  
  Group 
    
  I am discovering material density issues along with the air supply, 
  buoyancy and control issues inherent to a dry ambient design. In that regard 
  the following excerpt is from the NAVPERS manual for air systems aboard WWII 
  fleet boats, specifically the 3000 lb system. 
    
  2A3. Air banks. Each of the five air 
  banks consists of seven flasks, with the exception of the No. 1 air bank, 
  which has eight. Each flask is provided with a drain valve. The total capacity 
  of the air banks is 560 cubic feet. The No 1 air bank is located inside the 
  pressure hull, with four flasks in each battery compartment. The other four 
  air banks are located in the main ballast 
  tanks 
    
  The 560 total cubic feet caught my eye and I 
  wondered if this could possibly be correct? Since this is equivalent of 
  seven 80 SCUBA tanks on such a large vessel to blow tons of seawater. I 
  understand the concept of the low-pressure blowers on the surface and would 
  employ that feature. But I am still trying to make sense of buoyancy tankage 
  and air supply issues for a dry ambient design. 
    
  Incidentally, I have been dealing with post Hurricane issues (somewhat 
  ?irritating?) but was distressed to see the recent posts, as the animosity was 
  palpable. If as a "new guy" some of my previous posts were somewhat 
  ?irritating? to some, I did so in ignorance of the culture within this 
  community however, I cannot offer any apologies for this reason. Although I am 
  a neophyte in this field, I am an expert in others where the basics were once 
  complex issues to me. 
    
  That having been said, I will respect the house ?rules? and limit my 
  posts to those times when the learning curve has flattened a bit as 
  above. 
    
  Thank You 
    
  Joe  ************************************************************************ 
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