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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Water Testing of Persistence
Brian / Shawn
I had a plan if I needed it.  It's a fine line between preparing for what 
could go wrong and over preparing for anything that could go wrong.  If I 
was stuck with the sub at the bottom, Al had a lift bag and was prepared to 
dive to a hundred feet of so attach the bag and get it off the bottom.  With 
the sub up that far, we could travel to where it touched bottom again and do 
another hundred foot lift until we got it on the surface.  That would have 
been about midnight, but it was a plan.  That would have worked if it was 
only a little heavy.
If it was too heavy for the lift bag and the poly line, my next plan was to 
mark the spot with a float on the line, hire a barge with a winch, then 
devise and build a grapple that would slide down the poly line to grab the 
lifting eye.  The sub flooded would be around 4000 thousand pounds.  I'm 
sure I'd be buying a lot of cable for someone because I doubt anyone would 
have that much available on a winch around here.
I like your idea of a lift bag with a timer.
I guess you could substitute the weight release line with a wire and have 
something electrical to drop the weight.  Entanglement wouldn't matter but 
every system has it's possible problems.
I'm not so sure a pressure gauge would be sensitive enough to let you know 
if it's flooding.  It would take many pounds of water to increase the 
pressure much.  By the time you know you had a problem, the sub would 
already be to heavy.
I was trying to think positive but be prepared without going through 
thousands of dollars of insurance that wasn't needed.  Sort of, do you go 
for the $100, 000 policy or the $1,000,000 policy.  The important thing is 
that you have an back up plan, not necessarily implement it before you need 
it though.
Dan H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn" <gambit7@bellsouth.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Water Testing of Persistence
A remote camera system mounted inside the sub on a tether to the surface 
would seem better.  As well as an internal pressure guage.  Any leak should 
register as a rise in pressure correct?  Alongside all that, a remote 
emergency ballast tank (airbag) would be good.  I'll be honest, if it was 
my project I'd have all of this.  If not, I'd have surface support strong 
enough to winch it off..   Just my thoughts.   Quite BALLSY to do it any 
other way, dont think my heart coulda took it either hehe.
Shawn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Cox" <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Water Testing of Persistence
Dan,
          I think that experience would have given me a coronary!!  Has 
anyone thought of maybe having some type of air bag on a timer in case of 
a leak when testing ?
Brian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Keefer" <psubs2001@yahoo.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Deep Water Testing of Persistence
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