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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Piston pressure regulator



Hi Silky,

You can also download Pierre's paper on BIG at:

http://www.psubs.org/convention/2003/BIG.ppt

Regards,
Ray

--- Ray Keefer <psubs2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Silky,
> 
> Get a set of the 2003 PSUBS Convention DVD's. Pierre
> did a talk where he extensively covered his design. 
> 
> Regards,
> Ray
> 
> --- s ï l k y N?³ <silkyfx@hotmail.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Pierre,
> > Yea you assumed correctly and i like your idea.
> dono
> > why i didnt think of 
> > that its less prone to inaccuracy because its mush
> > simpler to check the 
> > setting with the gage. i have some questions about
> > BIG:
> > 
> > how dose BIGs hatch seel? how did you make that
> > seel?
> > i noticed that thr is a hatch clip on the outside,
> > can it also be opned from 
> > the inside? how?
> > How dose air go from the scuba tanks into the
> hull?
> > how is the brathing air 
> > flow regulated?
> > Dose BIG have a web page?
> > 
> > thnx                                             
> > silky
> > 
> > >Hi Silky,
> > >
> > >I like your idea.
> > >
> > >As for (3) emergency use, I assume that one side
> of
> > the piston (the side 
> > >with the spring) must be at 1atm of else you
> would
> > only mesure pressure 
> > >difference...
> > >
> > >I have another idea. If instead of using spring
> you
> > use compressed air on 
> > >one side of the cylinder. So you want max deep of
> > 100 foot (50 psi). you 
> > >slowly open a valve from air tank and adjust
> > pressure inside cylinder to 50 
> > >psi with a gage. That way, it could be easy to
> > adjust and also be variable 
> > >adjustement for any situation.
> > >
> > >We could also used electricity for valves because
> > lots of pneumatic 
> > >cylinder already commes with limit switches
> mounted
> > on the core of the 
> > >cylinder. Off the shelf and ready to use.
> > >
> > >My 2 cents to your idea...
> > >
> > >Pierre Poulin
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- From: "s ï l k y
> N?³"
> > <silkyfx@hotmail.de>
> > >To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:39 AM
> > >Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Piston pressure
> regulator
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hey,
> > >>
> > >>I have posted a picture on moki. It shows the
> > basic principle of a methord 
> > >>that could be used to regulate (three things)
> (1)
> > the air pressure 
> > >>difference between water and in hull. (2) Vent
> air
> > out of an ambieus sub. 
> > >>(3) automaticaly bring the sub back to the
> surface
> > if it goes under a 
> > >>preset depth (too near crush depth or Air
> related
> > depths)
> > >>
> > >>(example) the idea is 1 lubricated water proof
> > piston with two open sides. 
> > >>one open side exposed to the outer water
> pressure
> > and the other to the 
> > >>inside pressure. The displacement from its
> central
> > position due to presure 
> > >>difference is used to open - close two valves.
> one
> > valve leads to the 
> > >>breathing air suply the other (2) IS the air out
> > vent.(link to image at 
> > >>bottom)
> > >>
> > >>Adjustable spring(s) could be used to controle
> the
> > sensetivity of this 
> > >>system. This could if implimented correctly be
> > used to reduce the 
> > >>probability of the piston bouncing up and down
> > effect and reduce the 
> > >>amount of air wasted due to small vertical
> > movements.
> > >>
> > >>How to use this as an emergency system (3) one
> > could for example use a 
> > >>stiffer spring to encrease the pressure needed
> to
> > activate a valve and 
> > >>increase the distance the piston must move
> before
> > the valve is activated. 
> > >>In this case the activated valve would be a
> > secondairy blow ballast valve.
> > >>
> > >>I have scribles, notes & workings If you want
> more
> > info.
> > >>
> > >>thnx silky
> > 
> >
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