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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Anchor for Sub



Hi Cliff.
 
Your scenereo made me think of two days ago. My dive buddy and I were out on his boat looking for a freshwater spring located about 300 yards out in the Gulf of mexico just south of Hudson, Fl. in Lighter bayou.
 
We dropped anchor while we were grilling some burgers on his boat grill. The anchor kept dragging across the bottom and we were slowly drifting with the current. The bottom here is very sandy
 
like a submerged desert, and there is very little structure for an anchor to catch on. Of course we were topside affected by the current. But there are underwater currents you would have to deal with too.
 
Would a relatively smooth drum filled with concrete drag along the bottom if your sub was in an underwater current, and would it be of much use doing that?  Our anchor had pointed ends designed to dig into the
 
bottom but it still dragged right thru the sand. Is the bottom sandy or rocky where you are Cliff? What is the average depth to the bottom where you are? Would you be able to put the sub itself on the bottom
 
(if it's not over scuba depth) and then exit thru the lockout and secure an anchor line so you knew it was secure and not dragging? Then you could go back into the lockout and decompress inside the sub.
 
When you wound up the line to resecure the drum into the sub's bottom, you would need at least two line secure points on the drum or else it might spin on the line and jam sideways against the cavity under
 
the sub.
 
It sounds like a good idea Cliff, but I think it depends on whether the bottom where you plan to dive has suitable structure for an anchor to grab sufficiently, and would a smooth drum drag along in a heavy underwater
 
current even if you did have structure on the bottom?  I guess it would depend on the weight of your sub and how much an underwater current would affect your sub and therefore the line and drum.
 
I guess even a dragging weight would be better than no anchor at all though.
 
Hmmm. This one sounds like a toughie. Sorry I can't think of a good answer to help you Cliff.
 
Kindest regards,
 
Bill Akins.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Anchor for Sub

I?ve been tossing an idea around for a sub that some may find useful.  It would be nice to get some input as far as possible ?snags? (pun intended) in the design.  The sub I intend to build will have to spend many hours offshore on a single trip in order to get far enough out to become useful.  Inshore water is near-zero visibility.  I?m worried about seas changing for the worse while out and need a way to submerge to a ?calmer? depth in order to ride-out a storm.  To keep from drifting about at 60 fsw or thereabouts, I was thinking to make my drop weight tetherable (is that a word?).  If things get rough, I plan to submerge to the desired depth and release a tethered drop weight to the bottom.  Once it hits bottom, the sub will be buoyant by however much the drop weight weighs and should remain suspended by the length of cable connected to the drop weight.  I am hoping that submerged to a calm enough depth this will sufficiently anchor the sub in place until such time that conditions at the surface become more favorable.  If this is workable, it would be very nice for a lot of other things such as compensating for buoyancy changes that occcur when a diver lockout chamber is flooded, holding divers at 1A for appropriate ?surface intervals? without having to ride a rocking and rolling surface vessel, etc..  Not to mention that it will keep me very close to my last known GPS location before submerging and prevent me from drifiting into shipping lanes, oil platforms, using up battery capacity keeping the sub on station, etc..  My idea is keep the drop weight as simple and inexpensive as possible, since it may not be easily retracted when ready (snagged, malfunction, stuck in the bottom, etc.).  Of course there would have to be a way to break it off or at least cut the line.  I had thought I might simply continue unwinding it until the end of the cable simply slipped from the spool.  The weight would simply be a concrete-filled drum with an eye bolt in it.  The sub would have a similar shaped cavity in the bottom so that it could be wound up and neatly tucked in for running.

Input appreciated, as always.

Best Regards,

Cliff