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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pressure Vessels



Cliff,
 
There is no direct correlation between the MAWP (maximum allowable working pressure) for a pressure vessel subjected to internal pressure and the crush strength of the vessel. The potential failure modes are just to different.  To utilize an existing pressure vessel, you would have to remove one of the heads and install standard "T" shaped internal stiffeners and reweld the head.  ABS rules for Building and Classing Underwater Vehicle, Systems, and Hyperbaric Facilities" has a chapter on Metallic Pressure Boundary Components.  For a given hull diameter and stiffener design, these equations can be used to calculate the maximum design depth for a stiffened hull. Given that you have to cut a head off one of these vessels  to install stiffeners and the uncertainty of the steel used in the vessel, most psubers choose to purchase pressure vessel plate steel like A516-70, have it cut on a plasma flat bed cutter and then have it rolled and TIG welded. This way, you know exactly what you have.  As mentioned before, it difficult to remove odors from process fluids that impregnate the steel in used vessels .  These days, most places that would have a bed plasma cutter large enough to handle the plate steel required for a hull also are set up with a large roll.  The biggest differences in external and internally pressurized pressure vessels is the pressure derating that occurs on externally pressurized vessels due to even slight out of roundness during fabrication.  Eccentricity in internally pressurized vessel in no big deal but for externally pressured vessels, it is significant.  The bottom line is that,  even though initially it might look like a fast way forward to use a used oil field pressure vessel, when you get into the details of the design, most pushers, after a bit of research, choose to have their hull rolled from plate.
 
Cliff
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pressure Vessels

Question for you ME?s.  Is there any relationship between crush strength and a pressure vessel?s burst rating?  Here in the oil patch it?s relatively easy to find scrap pressure vessels in sizes and shapes that could be desirable for a psub?s pressure hull.  Materials range from mild steel to hastalloy and other exotic alloys.  Many are in good condition and can be purchased at fractions of a dollar per pound of material.  Being pressure vessels, they tend to be cylindrical, spherical, have rounded endcaps, external reinforcing rings, etc..  It shouldn?t be too hard to find the manufacturer and get the original application and/or cert?s on them, of course all the ratings would be for internal pressures / temps.

Best Regards,

Cliff McDonald