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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hsla steels



Gordon,
 
Welcome aboard.
 
Many psub designers and builders try and adhere as much a s possible to ABS Rules .  There guidance for steels suitable for submersibles is given below. 
 

"3 Pressure Boundary Material Specifications

3.1 Plates

Plate materials of pressure boundaries, including attachments, are to comply with one of the

following.

i) Steel: ABS Hull Grades CS, E, EH32, EH36; U.S. Navy Grades HY-80 and HY-100 per

MIL-S-16216; ASTM A516 Grades 55, 60, 65, 70; ASTM A537 Class 1 and 2; ASTM A517

Grades, A, B, E, F, J

ii) Aluminum: ASTM B209 alloys 5083, 5086, 5456, 6061-T6 (see Section 5)

iii) Titanium Alloys: ASTM B265 Grade 5

iv) Stainless Steel: ASTM A240 Type 304 or 316

v) Acrylic Plastics (cast polymethyl methacrylate): ASTM D702 and Section 7"

I have just completed the hull for a one man, one atm. submersible.  I used A516-70 because is readily available at most mills because it is used in most ASME pressure vessels.  US military subs use the HY-80 and HY-100 steels.  I have no experience with a588 plate but would steer away from using it if you want to seek ABS certification of the hull because of the extra qualification testing that is required if you do not use one of the materials recommended in the section above.

I purchased all the steel (A516-70) for my boat three months ago.  The prices were 100% higher that those quoted 6 months ago. Likewise, I purchased all the 316-ss for my hatch and stern tube assembly recently. It to had escalated about 100% over a six month period. 

 

Cliff

 

 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] hsla steels

Hello,
 
I am new to this list. I have spent a good portion of the last ten years or so absorbed in homebuilt aircraft. I am perhaps crossing over.
 
Can anyone speak to the suitability of a588 plate? So far I have been using it's numbers in my calculations and quote requests from fabricators. I have not asked about the price of hsla 80 & 100. Has anyone here seen or heard those prices lately?
 
thank you,
Gordon Alexander