Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ABS - 3/17.1.1 - Normal Ballast System

[Steven Mills <cirtemoeg@juno.com>]

Marten,   [ I spelled your name right this time  : )  ]

Don't worry about.  I think most of us saw the 'smiley' and got the
humor.

A lot of us get volumes of email to sift thru and sometimes these
things are easily overlooked.  It will happen again, so don't let it
ruffle you, just shrug it off.

>From all the responses you've seen posted you know you have our respect !

cheers,- -Steve


On Thu, 6 May 2004 12:12:43 -0400 "Marten Liebster"
<mliebster@tbteam.com> writes:
> 
> Apparently my smiley didn't have the intended effect. I received, 
> what I
> consider to be, a semi-nasty direct email and now this posting.
> 
> It is because I respect for the knowledge contained by those here 
> that I ask
> such questions. I'm not demanding respect since I've read through 
> several
> chapters of a handbook. Respect given to a person is attained by 
> what EF
> Hutton used to say on their commercials, by earning it. 
> 
> I know that I'm a newbie. I know that there are many things that I 
> don't
> know. I am very humble in regards to my sub (and many other fields 
> as well)
> knowledge. But as far as I can tell this is the best place to ask 
> specific
> questions to ones who have that knowledge. In fact the About Us page 
> on
> psubs.org says "PSUBS.ORG was organized to promote and encourage the
> discussion, designing, building, certifiying, owning and use of 
> personal
> submersibles".
> 
> I hope that I can garner some respect for my desire to learn and to 
> safely
> and properly build a psub. Perhaps over the years I will be able to 
> gain
> some respect as a submariner.
> 
> Back to my original post:
> How do you deballast? & Do you have two independent means of doing 
> this?
> 
> By seeing how others are doing this, I learn. If someone 
> successfully is
> using a similar method to my design, then that's some confirmation 
> of my
> design and progress. Obviously my design would still need to be 
> tested. If
> someone uses a method that I couldn't conceive of, I learn about 
> that and
> see if it would work better.
> 
> I hope I have clarified myself and explained my method of madness!
> 
> Marten
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Pierre 
> Poulin
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 11:44 AM
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ABS - 3/17.1.1 - Normal Ballast System
> 
> Marten, I'm sorry to say that respect don't come by reading a 
> book...
> 
> But you still have my respect anyway!
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> >From: "Marten Liebster" <mliebster@tbteam.com>
> >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> >Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] ABS - 3/17.1.1 - Normal Ballast System
> >Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 10:23:51 -0400
> >
> >Gentlemen and scholars,
> >
> >Quoting ABS handbook in section 3/17.1.1 (Normal Ballast System):
> >"Each manned unit is to be fitted with a ballast system capable of 
> >providing normal ascent and descent and necessary trim adjustments. 
> 
> >Ballast tanks that are subjected to internal or external pressure 
> are 
> >to comply with the requirements of Section 6. Two independent means 
> of 
> >deballasting are to be provided; one is to be operable with no 
> electric 
> >power available."
> >
> >
> >In my initial designs I have only accommodated for 1 means of 
> >deballasting, using valves and compressed air. I assume this is the 
> way 
> >most psubs are set-up.
> >
> >How do you deballast?
> >
> >Do you have two independent means of doing this?
> >
> >Thanks for info
> >Marten "the ever-curious" Liebster
> >
> >PS Hopefully I'll start getting some respect - as I have started to 
> 
> >read through the ABS book :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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