Have you considered So. Cal ?
Brian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:23
AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Underwater
tent...
That is exactly what I am trying to decide. I know it sounds a little
crazy to have all of
my belongings in boxes and still not know where I am going, but that is
the way of it.
You see, I need to find a water-side place to live with a low cost of
living that is also
suitable for RestoRides. Any recommendations are welcome.
You're
right. Mistakes made serve a role as lessons as much as successes are.
Let me think about this. It's been a while since I had even thought about
it. I was surprised I recalled the few details about the tent at
all! Actually, one of the first 3 still has merit, it was just
too small and even the 4th tent I thought was a bit tight.
Movin'
to Oregon?
--Steve
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:40:19 -0700 (PDT)
Warren Greenway writes: > First, I
wouldn't mind knowing about the other > attempts, which I assume
weren't so succesfull. > (Forewarned is for-armed, you know.) I
certainly will > post my progress as soon as I have something to
post. > All of my belongings are boxed up right now...Which >
makes projects out of the question for the time being. > >
Warren. > > > --- Steven Mills wrote: > >
Good thing I didn't write about the first three > >
attempts. > > > > Hopefully, you'll post your ' w.i.p.'
on Restorides? > > I'd be > > interested in how it
goes. > > > > --Steve > > > > >
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Warren > >
Greenway > > writes: > > >
Yeah, I cracked a smile! Thanks for sharing that! > > I >
> > think that my first "manned tent" will be similar > >
in > > > dimensions. > > > > > >
Warren. > > > > > > --- Steven Mills
wrote: > > > > Wow, we're talking a long
time ago, but here > > goes. > > > > > >
> > First, I'm assuming that the setting and > >
morphology > > > > of the pond > > > > aren't
significant. > > > > Suffice it to say, , the only problems
I > > encountered > > > > were in the > >
> > construction, > > > > the materials available to
me, and my own > > > > inexperience and not so > >
> > much the dynamics of the pond. > > > > >
> > > My tools were pipe benders, hacksaw, pipe > >
threaders, > > > > and the ol' > > > > Sears
craftman's tool set [ the old "good" tool > > set > > >
> of a time passed ]. > > > > The materials were ; conduit
and plumbing > > fittings, > > > >
construction > > > > grade clear visaquene plastic, pitch
for > > sealant, > > > > rope, string, small >
> > > canvas bags used ! with sand and gravel for weight >
> and > > > > trim, and > > > > homemade
pinch clamps to hold plastic to frame > > at > > > >
various points > > > > to keep it in place [ without damaging
or poking > > > > holes in the plastic.] > > >
> Basically, the stock came from a loose > > assortment
of > > > > parts from > > > > my granddad's
barn. The base frame was sized > > and > > > > cut
from > > > > stock galvinized 1inch diam. conduit, the
top > > frame > > > > was sized and > >
> > cut from half inch galvinized stock. I rammed > >
and > > > > packed the pipe for > > > > the
base with sand using rebar and pieces of > > burlap > >
> > wadding. > > > > The top frame was left hollow. I
made four > > tents > > > > the last being >
> > > successful at 4feet by 6feet base at 3feet in > >
> > height. 3 half round > > > > frame members with a
longitudinal supporting > > member > > > > and
vertical > > > > supports at each end. Despite its weight it
was > > > > slightly positive > > > > bouyant.
So, I added sand filled canvas bags > > lashed > > >
> to the bottom > > > > frame. When I needed to replenish
the air or > > take it > > > > to surface I
simply > > > > unlashed the bags and it would rise slowly
with > > a > > > > little help. > > >
> It was crude and it did leak, but there was > > always
a > > > > good size pocket > > > > of air to
enable me to explore a short distanc! e > > and > > >
> return for air. > > > > I would say it gave me about 20
minutes under > > before > > > > I had to
surface. > > > > I could sit in it, but the plastic would fog
up > > a > > > > lot, but a splash of > >
> > water > > > > cleared it up. Visaquene is
hygroscopic so it > > would > > > > opaque and
degrade > > > > out of water while being stored. It was
fun > > while it > > > > lasted. It was > >
> > destroyed > > > > when my cousins and a few
neighbor kids thought > > it > > > > would be
fun > > > > playing 'depth charge' with large rocks [
and > > with > > > > me in it ! ] > > >
> > > > > Well, did that help?... or at least crack
a > > smile? &! gt; > > > > > > >
Shallow, tidal, and near shore dynamics is a > > > >
different story compared > > > > to a pond. You've got your
work cut out for you > > > > that's for sure. > >
> > > > > > cheers, --Steve > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:34:22
-0700 (PDT) Warren > > > > Greenway > > > >
writes: > > > > > That is similar
to the proposal by Michael > > Savage > > > > >
in his book Millenial Project. So, what I want > > to > >
> > know > > > > > is this: How large was your
electrical conduit > > > > > > > underwater
tent? I'm still very interested in > > > > > collecting
data on swell-induced pressure > > > > variations >
> > > > in such a habitat. > > > > > >
> > > > Warren. > > > > > > > >
> > --- Steven Mills wrote: > > > >
> > ...and, if you feel real ambitious or want > > to >
> > > add a > > > > > > split-level >
> > > > > to that underwater tent, may I suggest this >
> : > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > http://fun.supereva.it/artificialisle/index.html >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Or, perhaps we should all chip in and build > >
a > > > > pSubs > > > > > >
headquarters > > > > > > and convention center
? > > > > > > > > > > > > :- )
--Steve > > > > &! gt; > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:37:53 -0700
(PDT) > > Warren > > > > > > Greenway >
> > > > > writes: > > >
> > > > Cool! Thanks! One thing about that link > >
that > > > > is > > > > > > >
interesting is that they are measuring > > PAR. I > > >
> told > > > > > > the > > > > >
> > company I was working for that underwater > > PAR
> > > > > > > measurments would become important in
the > > near > > > > > > future. > >
> > > > > They laughed. Hmmm. I designed a PAR > >
> > instrument > > > > > > once > > >
> > > > before! > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Warren. > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Steven Mills
> > wrote: > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This isn't exactly a
tent for habitation > > or > > > > > > >
> saturation diving. But it is > > > > > > > >
similar to something I built as a 14 > > year > > >
> old > > > > > > kid > > > > >
> > > quite by accident. > > > === message
truncated === > > > > > >
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