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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] OSS Pressure hull basic layout.
For some things it is true that you are better off using off the shelf products,
but I guarantee that this will not be the case with this project. The systems
we need are very simple. Remember, I specialize in biophysical instrumentation,
so what we need will be right up my alley. I know how it all works, the what and
where of the parts, tools, etc. The controllers, on the other hand...
Warren.
> The PS2 is a usb controller
> here is all the information a person could want for a ps1
> controller
> http://www.gamesx.com/controldata/psxcont/psxcont.htm
> and i pointed out the gameboy advanced for a cheep color
> lcd that could be easy to use.
>
> i think that sometimes it is easer cheeper to use off the
> shelf "sometimes" consumer products then reinvent the
> wheel as for controllers PS1,pc analog or serial would be
> way cheeper then trying to build one.
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:29:50 +0800
> "Warrend Greenway" <dub@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> >Do you know of any info on the PS1/PS2 controller
> >interface? I'd be leaning
> >towards PC analog stuff, but if the PS1/PS2 use an SPI,
> >I2C or analog interface,
> >I would be interested.
> >
> >Warren.
> >
> >> Warren
> >> In looking around...
> >> it would possible to interface a Playstation or PS1
> >> controller with a midrange pic either in digital or
> >>analog
> >> with full functionality.
> >>
> >> The USB interface would require a bit more in the range
> >>of
> >> parts ie A few PIC's an Phllips ISP1160 or ISP1161A1
> >>Nvram
> >>
> >> but in theroy it could talk to any USB1.1 device that
> >>the
> >> nvram was programed to identify. though this might be a
> >> lot of futzing.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:20:20 -0800 (PST)
> >> John Rogers <djohnndjinn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >I have seen quite a few options for USB interfaces
> >>(slave
> >> >devices at least) pop up over the past year. I have
> >> >spoken before of implementing a CAN network like a
> >>modern
> >> >car would use. Due to the huge amount of work that has
> >> >already been done for cars, the interfaces for this
> >> >protocol can be purchased for dirt cheap. Connect this
> >> >to a cheap microcontroller with non-volatile memory and
> >> >boom. instant real-time distributed network.
> >> Reliable,
> >> >available, scalable.
> >> >Again, is is probably way too early to be worrying
> >>about
> >> >electrical systems..
> >> >--John
> >> > Warrend Greenway <dub@linuxmail.org> wrote:If you
> >> >figure out how to economically interface one of those
> >> >controllers
> >> >to a microcontroller, then you have my full attention.
> >> >The real problem
> >> >with them is that they all use proprietary
> >> >connectors...Except the USB
> >> >flavors, and the USB interface ICs usually take a lot
> >>of
> >> >baby-sitting...
> >> >But I'm sure listening...An older style joystick would
> >>be
> >> >easier in that
> >> >you can use a basic ADC to get the position.
> >> >
> >> >Warren.
> >> >
> >> >Warren.
> >> >
> >> >> I also think it looks Neat.
> >> >>
> >> >> Question is hull steel worked still going for around
> >> >> $.57/lb or $1.25/kg and was that for A517?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What about using a computer/ps2/x-box type
> >>controller?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:02:21 +0800
> >> >> "Warrend Greenway" wrote:
> >> >> >OK. You have some really interesting ideas here. I
> >> >> >personally
> >> >> >would like to see two hatches, possibly of raised
> >> >>domes,
> >> >> >or
> >> >> >the cylinders. I thought your seating idea was
> >>great! I
> >> >> >also
> >> >> >like the "foot dome", that is an interesting
> >>concept,
> >> >> >because
> >> >> >it minimizes the volume. Also, putting the
> >>instruments
> >> >> >and
> >> >> >controls on rails so that they roll out of the way
> >> >>sounds
> >> >> >like
> >> >> >a good idea, then they wouldn't be in the way when
> >>you
> >> >> >are
> >> >> >climbing in. Did you get a chance to look at the
> >> >> >pictures of my canted idea?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Warren.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I did a little fiddling around with the pressure
> >>hull
> >> >> >>layout.
> >> >> >> Using a foot well, it seem that we could design a
> >> >>hull
> >> >> >>with
> >> >> >> around a 2 cubic meter displacement (~2000kg or
> >> >> >>~4400lbs).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm interested in what people, in particular about
> >> >>the
> >> >> >> dimentions with regard to confort.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ian.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/subfiles.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >>http://www.prismnet.com/~moki/20030123.175639/hull-v1.jpg
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Approximate displacement: 2 cubic meters (~2000kg
> >>or
> >> >> >>4400lbs)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hatch top is 2.5 feet from the water line, per ABS
> >> >>spec.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> One dome viewport, one cylinder style veiwport.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Only rear seating position has a hatch, the dome
> >> >>doesn't
> >> >> >>not open.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Seats would probably be made of cloth and hung
> >> >>"hammock
> >> >> >>style"
> >> >> >> so they be easily moved out of the way making it
> >>easy
> >> >>to
> >> >> >>access
> >> >> >> the front seating position.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Front seating position is for the viewer/guest,
> >>the
> >> >>rear
> >> >> >>position
> >> >> >> is for the pilot, the idea is the pilot sitting
> >> >>slightly
> >> >> >>higher
> >> >> >> to see more.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Controls would been to fold away so they do not
> >> >>inhibit
> >> >> >>passage
> >> >> >> to the front position.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
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