Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get out of this email group:...Side Bar

["Pierre Poulin" <pipo305@hotmail.com>]

He Dan!

I'm 31 and understand one word out of three when it comme to electronic and 
computer. I'm a guy like you who knows the mechanical world. I'm pretty sure 
that the basic of a psub is in our field of expertise. All those electronics 
things are super but not essential.

There's nothing like experience! (at least that's what my girlfriend says)

Stay with us! Let your knowledge be available to the newbee like me!

Pierre








>From: "Steven Mills" <barycenter@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get out of this email group:...Side Bar
>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:33:14 -0800
>
>Hello Dan,
>
>Where is this going? I don't know. It's just the beginning. I believe part
>of this was meant to rally the members, hands-on members, like
>yourself, and the wishful thinkers like me and so many others to
>participate in an endeavor that could give real insights in the processes
>of designing and, at least on paper, the construction of a real pSub.
>It will certainly be a *test* in how well we cooperate with one another
>and how we gather our personal resources to see this project to
>completion. Anybody who wants to participate should be able to, but
>this shouldn't turn in to such a monster as to overshadow the original
>purpose and theme of the pSubs forum and leave some members with
>their questions and comments without answers and feedback or some
>response, therefore feeling left-out or overlooked.
>( I don't think any member would let this happen ).
>
>As far as the *age* thing, I don't think this should be a concern. I
>haven't reached that government prescribed retirement age yet, but
>I can tell you some of the local merchants here give me a senior
>citizen's discount without asking me first ( or my I.D. ). I protested
>at first, but they still give it to me...Hey ...I'll take the discount! And
>the coup de gras was when a young woman in the later stages of
>pregnancy offered me her seat on a bus....Jeez...do I look that bad!
>
>I say if you got pencil, paper, and a brain then you qualify. The interest
>in pSubs is implied and a given or you wouldn't be on this forum.
>Heck, I still have my K&E slide rule that I use quite often especially
>when there is a power failure or the batteries to my calculator go out.
>And I don't plan to retire, so I'm going to chug along until the batteries
>in *me* go out  :-)
>
>I think if you don't consider participation in this project then we would 
>lose
>a valuable resource and years of experience and wisdom. As I said, this is
>just starting-out. Even if the ground rules were to be laid and tasks 
>assigned
>I can guarantee it will change over time. I haven't seen a project that
>didn't undergo change over time.
>
>Well, don't think too hard about this...just hop in and give it a whirl.
>
>Thanks, --Steve
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dan H.
>   To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>   Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:44 AM
>   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get out of this email group:...Side 
>Bar
>
>
>   Steve,
>
>   As far as I'm concerned, you enthusiasm is great.  For years this group 
>has been made up of a "hot and heavy few" with a bunch of sideliners 
>following along.  That's normal.  Many join in of a while and then fade to 
>the side to return when the situation fits again.  A good healthy mix.
>
>   I used to do a lot of mechanical design.  I still do some but I'm must 
>say, I'm from the old school.  When, to be doing anything with electronics 
>involved, meant you used a hand held calculator.   I have dabbled with 
>AutoCAD some but still feel just as comfortable with a drafting machine.  I 
>can hear the young guys now.  Wow!  An actual living dinosaur, and he's 
>part of this group too.  Truth be told , I bet I'm not the only one.
>
>   My point is I would appreciate a little clear explanation of what this 
>is all about as it's evolving if possible.  I know you all don't have the 
>time to bring an old guy up to speed totally, but we on this list are from 
>many different backgrounds and may not understand what is coming together 
>and where we could contribute unless things are lied out clearly.
>
>   I'm sure I can contribute something, if only to point out some of the 
>pitfalls of constructing the K-350 I now have 3/4 complete.  I'm not 
>interested in building another sub but will help the project where I can.
>
>   Thanks for listening,  Dan H.
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Steven Mills
>     To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>     Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:05 AM
>     Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get out of this email 
>group:...Side Bar
>
>
>     I hope all this talk and discussion about Linux, programming,
>     sensing devices...etc., hasn't ostracized anyone or cause a
>     sense of exclusion.
>     I know I can get caught up in the excitement and prospects of an
>     interesting project.  I know this is not the intent of the current 
>thread
>     about "Open Source Submarine".
>     I have found myself at times in the sidelines observing and reading
>     email, wishing I could comment or suggest something, but not
>     knowing enough or not having the understanding enough to ask
>     meaningful questions. ( That does not imply that " I " feel excluded
>     personally...I don't ! ). Learning is part of the process here on 
>pSubs
>     and sometimes I find sitting back, taking it all in gives me new 
>material
>     to research. This forum has kept me quite busy and often up late at
>     night reading, thinking, and gives me the incentive to create new 
>concepts
>     and ideas.
>
>     Well, I hope I'm not out-of-line in my comments here or too 
>sentimental
>     or pollyannish. If I'm reading this all wrong then my apologies.
>
>     Bruno, I hope you're not leaving due to feeling frustrated in some 
>way.
>     If you're here for subs then I say you're in the right place. If not 
>then
>     send an email to:
>
>     majordomo@psubs.org
>
>     (write the message, without the stars)
>
>     *unsubscribe personal_submersibles*
>
>     --Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: bruno masse
>       To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>       Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:25 PM
>       Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] how to get out of this email group
>
>
>       explaine how i can get out of this email group please


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