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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Historical question concerning plans



On Tuesday 24 December 2002 12:21, you wrote:
This may be a little off the topic... but it might generate a lead.  

Back in the fifties, I believe, the Navy was experimenting with small 
submarines.  They came up with one that had a special diesel engine that did 
not require air to operate.  It used Hydrogen Peroxide as an oxidizer which 
was injected into the cylinders along with the fuel.  Exhaust was simply 
vented outside the hull.  

This, of course, proved to be more dangerous than using gasoline as fuel, and 
ultimately was unmanageable.  The sub had numerous fires on board and 
ultimately blew up, if memory serves.  It was also very noisy and left a 
trail of bubbles wherever it went... not quite the "stealth" sub they were 
looking for.

Now, this had originally been classified material... but I am sure it has 
been declassified by now.  The plans for the sub should be a matter of public 
record.  I'll see if I can find out... got a buddy in the Navy with 
connections.

Should this one be built... it should be a simple matter to fit it instead 
with electric motors, or even retain the diesel with the dreaded main 
induction valve for air intake.

Lemme do some looking.

> I've seen plans for airplanes in magazines.   The EAA even sells copies
> of the
> magazines that originally printed some of those plans in the 30s.   I've
> seen
> plans for sailboats, too, published in magazines.   Mostly, I see plans
> for
> small powerboats.
>
> Sometimes the plans aren't complete, but there's enough there for an
> experienced person to work out all the details.   If you look at the
> article that introducted the Markham sub, for example, all you really
> need is in that original 60s article.
>
> The complete plans for a diver's "Sport Submarine" were printed in
> a 60s magazine.   That article is, as I recall, on the PSUBS website.
>
> Does anyone know of the plans for any dry, one-atm sub published
> in the open literature?   It seems to me that someone must have
> done it at some point.   Probably before 1940, I think.
>
>
>
>
> Mike H.
>
>
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