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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] O2 & CO2 sensors



Oxygen is a must to live, but you can have more than enough oxygen and
there wrong stuff added, like CO can drop you.
Carl


jbarlow@bjservices.ca wrote:
> 
> I have collected a O2 sensor (analogue meter calibrated 0-25% oxygen) It is
> a:
> 
> MSA Oxygen Indicator
> Mfd by Mine Safety Appliances Company
> Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
> 15208
> 
> Part No. 468841
> Model 245R
> 
> That is what I was planning on using.
> 
> Jay.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> J. Barlow CET
> Sr. Mechanical Designer
> BJ Pipeline Inspection
> 
> Ph  (403) 531-5412
> Fax (403) 236-8740
> Cell (403) 807-2195
> 
> 
>                     "Gary R. Boucher"
>                     <protek@shreve.net>               To:     personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>                     Sent by:                          cc:
>                     owner-personal_submersibles       Subject:     Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] O2 & CO2 sensors
>                     @psubs.org
> 
> 
>                     12/09/2002 10:17 AM
>                     Please respond to
>                     personal_submersibles
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Cliff,
> 
>      Just had a primitive thought...   Do you really "need" a CO2
> sensor?  Many of the CO2 scrubbing products available use colored
> indicators which will allow you to see if the material has been
> exhausted.  Wouldn't a positive air flow indicator on the scrubber work as
> well?  If you know that cabin air is flowing through the material and the
> material is still active, couldn't you assume that the CO2 is being dealt
> with?
>      I do not use a scrubber on my sub, just SAR, surface and
> replenish.  However, my biggest fear would be from excess O2 or from
> overpressurization of the cabin.  Excess O2 levels can be a fire hazard
> (remember NASA's problem).  And, if for some reason, the inside of the sub
> had to be pressurized with a high O2 concentration, it could be toxic to
> the occupant.   The O2 sensor could warn you of this danger and a barometer
> 
> could warn against excess cabin pressure.  The flow meter and visual
> inspection of the scrubber material could warn against a potential lack of
> C02 removal.
>      I may just get me an O2 sensor for $77.  Course, I have no O2 to
> sense.  I love working with almost any type of sensor.  Makes me want to
> run design a circuit.  :-)
> 
> Gary
> 
> At 06:32 AM 9/12/2002, you wrote:
> >Alec, I to am working the O2 & CO2 sensor issue.  The www.amronintl.com
> site
> >has a number of analyzers for O2, CO2 and combined units. This is a great
> >site.  You have to set up an account with them to get prices.  Having set
> up
> >an account and checked out their prices, they are definitely set up for
> >commercial traffic.  Example, rack mounted O2 &CO2 unit (Sub Mk II - CO2,
> >O2, Depth) is over $7,000!
> >
> >Best I have found so far for Oxygen sensor is to use the Maxtec, formally
> >Ceramatec, CAG-250 sensor.
> >http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/Analyzer/analyzer.htm  shows how you can
> >build a simple unit out of a CAG-250 sensor ($77) and some simple
> electrical
> >components.  Since I am using a PLC and a touchscreen display, all I will
> >have to do convert the mV signal from the CAG-250, that is proportional to
> >O2 partial pressure, into a 4-20 mA signal and waire to my PLC analog
> input
> >module.
> >
> >So far I have not found a economical CO2 sensor. If anyone has a lead on a
> >economical 4-20mA or mV output sensor for CO2, please post.
> >
> >Cliff
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Alec Smyth" <Asmyth@changepoint.com>
> >To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:09 PM
> >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] sofnolime
> >
> >
> > > Adam,
> > >
> > > I'm just building my scrubber. What are you using to monitor the O2 and
> >CO2? I'm curious if you've come across any economical analyzers you'd
> >recommend. Or are you bilding your own?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Alec

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