Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Subsafe

["Nero Wolfe" <wolfe19@megsinet.net>]

Are you trying to say the FAA is an ideal system.  We are a small enough group that either stupidity or logic will prevail.  As far as I can tell, none of us are suicidal, and few are given to flights of fantasy (short of the boat itself).  

I feel, that given enough discussion here, would lead to a vastly superior book than the manuals and mandates given by a orginization like the FAA.  Unlike an airplane, our boats are relitively slow speed devices, and aren't prone to crashing in spectacular ways.  There aren't any unknowns untill we start talking high speeds under water.  Pressure vessels all have the calculations done for us, and there's no wiggle room there.  all we need to do is define a standard "safety factor"  And a standard number (say 3 of 7-8 methods) of tested and working escape methods....

Comercial submarines have no such devices... just a standard on how long life support should last.  I think we've already shown more initiave than even the FAA has as to making the vehicle safe.  I would trust, and encourage a book made by the pusubbing public.  If you look at cartsen, the K-series, and other examples of our craft..... I'd trust them more than the stuff I've seen from those NOT on the psubs list.  Everyone here can point out the design mistakes of those "other" boats.  

On another line of logic... someone has to start the book.  I'm sure it should go through peer review, and preferably independant review.  This is a needed resource in the community to prevent boats like we've seen in the past... that even "I" wouldn't trust on the surface.

Still another reason we need a book like this is to prevent mistakes like we've seen on the list previously... using the wrong equasions can get you killed.  A book like this would prevent that for the most part.

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On 7/1/2002 at 1:31 PM Captain Nemo wrote:

>Doug,
>
>You work for the FAA, right?  How would you feel about a group (comprised
>mainly of non-certificated mechanics and non-pilots) writing, editing, and
>publishing a book entitled "How to build your own airplane", based on
>excerpts from a rambling archive of largely unqualified chatroom comments?
>> In conclusion, I see Psubs as very inclusive.  You don't have to be a
>Subber to participate.  But by the same token, just because you are not a
>Subber, does not mean that you do not have to help out.  You do not have to
>be a Subber to add your area of expertise to the Psubs enterprise, whether
>your expertise is web development, mechanical drawing, database design,
>graphic arts, boat construction, scuba diving, or even literature (I am
>amazed that as exciting as Psubbing is, people who have done it share their
>designs more than their personal stories).  When people ask me "how can I
>thank you for getting us the Busby Books?", my reply is this "Don't thank
>me...imitate