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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Isn't 'Mini book review.' anymore--pressure t est
I had 
never thought of doing this with the crew inside, but it might be possible. 
There could be a number of factors that would affect air pressure, besides hull 
compression (e.g. temperature, battery gassing, crew metabolism, scrubbing). 
Perhaps one could do this:
 
- Take 
all possible measures to reduce these effects. For example, have the crew use 
rebreathers.
- 
Observe the variation of pressure while operating at a constant shallow depth. 
The idea is to see whether there is a constant factor, such as a gradual 
increase or decrease of pressure per operational hour, while staying at the same 
depth.
- Dive 
while graphing pressure relative to depth, but not going too 
deep.
 
If the 
last step gives you a straight line indicating proportionality, you could keep 
going down until you observed a deviation of the line. 
 
But 
darn, this is SO theoretical. What about a thermocline?
 
 
 
Alec
  In einer eMail 
  vom 12.04.2002 17:30:52 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerze schreibt 
  Asmyth@changepoint.com: 
  I'm referring to a thin tube that allows you to track air flow 
    out of the hull as the hull compresses. 
Does that mean that the 
  proceed from the assumption that a hull with a whatever shape and a material 
  with a linear elastic behavior (for the first time) will contract under 
  external pressue with a linear increase of the inner pressure due to the 
  linear decrease of the inner volume? (if the hull is definitely sealed) 
  
Hmm... sounds like a brilliant idea indeed. 
With "stress gauges" (DMS 
  in german) there is the problem that you have to know were the critical 
  stresses will appear. 
Tracking the decrease of the inner volume needs no 
  special consideration of the stiffeness distribution in the hull structure. It 
  works well even when the hull is really strong and only the hatch (or 
  something other) works like a drumhead..... 
Unfortunately it doesn´t 
  work while the sub is manned... I guess that the fact that our lungs burns O2 
  to CO2 will also influence the micro-pressure..but I´m not sure about the 
  practical consequence. If you use also CO2 absorbers I´m relatively sure that 
  this will disturb any exact pressure tracking. 
...maybe the passengers 
  have to brath consequently from a closed circuit (rebrather) 
With this 
  procedure any nonlinear reaction to a linear increasing of the pressure will 
  be a sign for problem. increase the inner pressure with a higher ratio then 
  the deep ----> some parts of the structure got weak. If the inner pressure 
  increase continualy while the deep is the same there could be a leak an water 
  runs into the hull.... 
conclusion: very good method for preventing the 
  hull for demage or lose. But needs a fine deep sensor and a very fine pressure 
  sensor and a computer to get the curves in realtime.. or a quick pen .... 
  
If wether it´s work in a boat on a lake or sea is just an other quest. 
  
Thanks you for that good idea! 
A.