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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Isn't 'Mini book review.' anymore--pressure t est
I'm 
getting into an area here that I don't know much about. But no, I'm not talking 
about a stress gauge. I'm referring to a thin tube that allows you to track 
air flow out of the hull as the hull compresses. I have not seen this done, 
but I've read somewhere that's how they do it. 
 
Regarding the maiden voyage, I believe Carsten extended an invitation to 
me a long time ago, and I consider that an honor. But would 
I go to 325m on a manned test? I think before giving you a straight yes/no 
answer, we'd have to sit and go through risks and calculations for 
a few hours. We're all risk takers or we wouldn't have this hobby. But 
on the other hand I always try to make my risks calculated 
risks. I think Carsten and I have both been on the conservative 
side of such discussions in the past. 
 
Alec
  In einer eMail 
  vom 11.04.2002 23:02:00 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerze schreibt 
  Asmyth@changepoint.com: 
  that they put a capillary tube out of your 
sub and track the 
    compression of the hull. As soon as the compression goes 
beyond a linear 
    relationship with the pressure, they stop. In other words, 
they can stop 
    when the elastic limit of the material is reached, but before 
making a 
    loud CRUMP sound. 
Alec 
Hi Alec, 
This 
  "capillary tube" you mentioned above ? Is it what we call DMS a little wire 
  meander on a little plaster changing itīs resistor value due to stresses.. 
  
I suggest to Carsten to tape some off this DMS on the inner side of 
  the hull and monitoring the stress curve during pick up the test deep ... I 
  feel relatively secure with such a procedure to avoide complete hull failure 
  but Iīm afraid of some local leaks particulary on connectors and hull openings 
  and of course weldings... 
Just last night I saw "DAS BOOT" again from 
  DVD... To make me fit for the ultimative challenge in my life ... test dive 
  with Carstenīs CSSX  "THE PSUB" ... .-)) 
A unmanned test dive can 
  mean to lose a intact sub due to a failed release automatic (see Carstens 
  statement) but it can also mean to lose a sub due to a simple little leaking 
  valve ... easy to seal with just two turns with the right wrench.. 
In a
  huge PSUB like CSSX I believe there is enough remaining space to manage some 
  leaks. (see "DAS BOOT") 
But in a little box like Sgt. Pepper ... hmmm 
  ...but the advantage is that small subs are easier to sink and easier to 
  salvage if complete filled with water... 
Alec, would you be willing to 
  dive with CSSX up to 325m ? Sounds my thoughts like common sense? 
What 
  preparations can be done to make such a testdive as sure as possible? 
I 
  believe itīs secure against lost of control to go to the deep only by dynamic 
  downlift (whats the right word for the downward force from the dive plains?) 
  and with empty hard tanks. (GABLER described such a procedure in his book) The 
  sea bottom should be near the test deep of course. 
Any failure in the 
  engine will cause surfacing and dive plans can only be shifted to up. At worst 
  case with empty hard tanks, dive plans up, full spead ahead and blowing the 
  soft tanks the sub will surface also with a greater leak like a rocket. The 
  only problem then are vessels on the surface..... 
Thinking over this ever 
  and ever again I believe itīs relatively safe. Maybe more then drive a car in 
  the rushour monday morning.... 
A.