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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building the Impossible: The First Submarine



Unfortunately I don't have any books that tell much of foreign subs,
other than those used in the military.
Carl


Michael Holt wrote:
> 
> Coalbunny wrote:
> >
> > I have given consideration to a bunch of older ships, not just subs.  In
> > the sub catagory it starts with De Son's sub of 1653.  An odd design,
> > but I feel that it certainly could have worked after simple testing.
> > Like placing some kind of a shield or wheel well above the paddle
> > wheels.  Would have dragged something fierce, but still would have
> > improved the propusion by 500%.
> 
> Now that you mention it, I've seen De Son's boat identified as
> Drebbel's boat.  One picture even had oars sticking out of the
> flat sides.
> 
> > Gave brief thought to Bushnell's Turtle, but decided it's good only when
> > I feel suicidal.
> 
> I think the Turtle is suicidal only when it's built to the original
> specs.  I considered it to the extent of creating a HUL file of the
> hull for construction in wood and glass.  Add real batteries,
> motors and leave that silly mine behind, and one is left with a
> rather strange one-seat shallow-water toy.
> 
> By the way, I'm seeing more and more references to a weight on the
> Turtle.  It was suspended, I read, 50 feet below the sub, to make
> it more stable (presumably).  Seems like a great way to waste more
> energy and to anchor the boat without the operator knowing it.
> 
> > Right now one of my favorites is Fulton's Nautilus.  Now a lot of the
> > designs I have considered would be replicated on the exterior only.
> > With today's technology it could be replicated both extrenally and
> > internally and still be "safe", but I just want to replicate the
> > extrerio.  Not just a show piece but something I can use for my own
> > enjoyment.
> 
> I want to know how well Fulton's sail worked.
> 
> > I have considered a number of other subs, such as the Hunley, but feel
> > these I mentioned are those I have considered most.
> 
> Consider some foreign boats.  The "Peral," the various "Delphins"
> and even Bauer's boats.
> 
> Mike

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