Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Discovery channel last night...

[MerlinSub@t-online.de (Carsten Standfuß)]

VBra676539@aol.com schrieb:
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> Carsten is correct in that cabin structure requirements are different. What
> he fails to mention however is the fuel and support costs. The estimate for
> the space shuttle with a full payload at liftof is ten inches vertical motion
> per gallon of fuel burned, averaged over the entire launch to orbit burn. I'm
> going to hazard a guess here that Krupp could mill me out a Ni Cr Mo hull
> about 5" thick, maybe 8' inside diameter, for something less than that. Add a
> few tons on syntactic, a few lights, couple of thrusters and some batteries
> stuck in the back somewhere, and we can go to the Challenger Deep, not just
> once, but over and over.
> 
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> Best Regards,
> Vance

Hi Vance .. Apollo to Moon and back needs 2430 t fuel for 768810 km 
this is equal to 2430.000 kg for 3.0268110-10 inches
or 0.00008 kg per inch or 0.0008 kg per 10inch .. 

I don't know how much the density of the Apollo fuel was but with 
1 Kg = 1 Liter and 1 galleon equal to 3,785 Liter we get 
0.0008/3,785 = 0,0002 galleon for 10 inch. 

1 / 0.0002 = 5000 times smaller fuel consuption as the shuttle..
- but Apollo was more or less german engineering.. :-)

And as you know Sabines european small size car need about 
1 galleon for 100 Kilometers or 1,609 galleon for 100 statute
miles - but only if we run it not faster than 130 km/h or 
81 miles an hour. 

A misson to Mars will get much lower figures for galleon per 10inch
as Apollo .. 

How much fuel was required by MIR ? She runs 13 years around
the earth .. 

Conclusion : Never belive any statistic - never.. 

:-) Carsten