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Re: Trichloroethane was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Phone # for Mine sweeper hulls



Thanks, Dave. I don't know about you, but every time I'm exposed to carcinagenic (sp?) chemicals, I have to sit down and have a cigarette. Gene, I forgot to suggest Methyl Ethyl Ketone. MEK is another one that requires good ventilation. Make sure you're not pregnant.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: D. Blake
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:30 PM
Subject: Trichloroethane was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Phone # for Mine sweeper hulls

Try here:
http://www.rierdenchemical.com/Products/1-1-1_trichloroethane.htm
 
Enjoy,
BigDave
-----Original Message-----
From: D. Blake <dblake@bright.net>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Date: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Phone # for Mine sweeper hulls

Hi Joe:
Yeah, I remember 1,1,1 Trichloroethane.  Great stuff, and would cut through just about anything.  Also would dry the skin right off your hands and arms in no time flat not to mention your forehead from wiping the sweat from your brow.  After OSHA stepped in, we had to switch to Naphtha.  Not nearly as good, but you could keep your zippo full at all times for free.
Anyway yeah, if you can get some trichloroethane go for it!  I don't see any problems for just one job.  I was elbow deep in the stuff 8-hours a day for around 4-years.  I got some scars, but no cancer yet (knock on wood).
 
BigDave
-----Original Message-----
From: Marsee Skidmore <heyred@email.msn.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Date: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Phone # for Mine sweeper hulls

My all time favorite solvent has to be trichloroethane. I just went looking for some recently, without success. Banned as an ozone eater. I can suggest a few readily available noxious chemicals that you might try. Kerosene is fairly cheap, fairly benign, and fairly slippery. Turpetine is a non-liver-eating replacement for turpentine. If your glue is an old pine tar material, turpetine may cut it. Denatured alcohol may work better than isopropyl, but it still evaporates too quickly for my taste. Mineral spirits (paint thinner) might be worth a try. Paint stripper can work miracles, but OSHA and the ozone hole have taken some of the fun out of that, too. Do you have a big fan, and somebody to spot you?
 
Joe
 
(Sorry, I've been off line for some months due to technical difficulties. Well, okay, computer incompetence and laziness.)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: HUNTR2@aol.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 6:17 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Phone # for Mine sweeper hulls

A chap "down under" wanted the phone # for the place that sells the mine
sweepers.  It is Lague Sales,  Robert Lague   209-825-2582.   I think he
wants $250 each.  If you work out a deal with him to ship one to you, I'd be
glad to go and pick out one for you.  (Just to make sure you get the best of
the pile).  Some of them have some pretty deep marring where they were
dragged on the sand.  I'd look for one with no damage.

I cut one in half the other day and took out the foam blocks.  They weigh 600
lbs, total, without the foam.  Did the math calcs to estimate how much it
would displace.  Figured to be 4400 lbs on paper.   After I cut it at
"station 10", I stood each half on a large scale and filled them with water.  
The front 10ft. weighed in at 3200 lbs and the tail (8'10") weighed 1100 full
of water.  Total weight =  4300 lbs.  The first 14" of the nose is sealed
from the rest and did not fill with water.  I don't know if it is full of
foam or just empty.  There is a 4 inch steel tube across the inside at
station 6.  There is a glue substance (very sticky yet after 50 years) on
parts of the inside, apparently to hold the foam in place during assembly.  
Tested acetone, alcohol, gasoline, detergent, and tolulene.  Only tolulene
will cut the glue and then only with scrubbing.  Heat softens it so I used a
heated pressure washer to get alot of it out but that was a VERY slow and hot
process.    I'm not willing to climb inside with a gallon of tolulene and
start scrubbing away.  
Any suggestions?
Gene