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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] AIP and Carbon Nano Faser Hydrogen Storage
Hi Dave - the only information I have about
CNV Technology is that you can store
450 gramm Hydrogen at each liter CNF
(same figure for metallhydrid is 80gr/l)
(same figure vor metanol is 95 gr/l)
( for H2 in pressure bottles is 17,5 gr/l)
Thats is amazing much Hydrogen in the storage tank/box
and incrase the space for the O2 pressure bottles 3 times.
But maybe CNF it just a new experimental technology..
How I get the hydrogen in CNF / how I get them out/
how expensive / which density etc../ producer etc
all avaliable information will help.
Carsten
"D. Blake" schrieb:
>
> Hi Carsten:
> You must have some knowledge of this technology in order to have calculated
> the results for your comparison table. What specific kind of information
> are you interested in ie. the technology itself, manufacturers, both? I'll
> be glad to look around a while for you, but I hate to unload a bunch of
> links to information you are already have.
>
> TTYL,
> Big Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Standfuß <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Date: Saturday, December 30, 2000 8:47 AM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] AIP and Carbon Nano Faser Hydrogen Storage
>
> Hi Submadmans,
>
> Has anybody of you informations, sources or links
> about Carbon Nano Faser Hydrogen Storage Technology ?
> (über Kohlenstoff Nano Faser Wasserstoff Speicher Technologie ?)
>
> Did some research/calculations about AIP drives
> to increase the underwater-range.
>
> results : (CSSX with 30 kw engine and 4 knots)
>
> 1) with electric lead battery : ca. 20 sm
> 2) with Hydrogen-Motor and gas storage H2 and O2 : ca. 20 sm
> 3) with Close cycle diesel (CCD) and gas storeage O2 : ca. 70 sm
> 4) with Fuel cell and gas storage H2 and O2 : ca. 60 sm
> 5) with Fule cell and gas.st.O2 and CNF H2 store : ca.180 sm
> 6) with Hydrogen-Motor and gas.st.O2 and CNF H2 st. : ca. 65 sm
>
> Hydrogen-Motor : Petrolengine driven in close cycle
> with H2 and O2 injection.
>
> At the moment it looks that 4) and later rebuild (easy)
> to 5) is the best solution.
> Number 2) seems the cheapest solution and has the
> capacity to change later to 6).
> Number 3) looks good but there are maybe some problems
> with smell and dust in the submarine.
>
> But unfortunalty I have no real information about CNF technology.
>
> All the best for next year to everbody, Carsten