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Hi,

To change the subject a bit. What would it take to get the Office of the 
Oceanographer of the Navy to do a new edition of "Manned Submerisble".
The current book is wonderful but a lot has happened since then.

Regards,
Ray


> From: SeaLordOne@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:34:34 EDT
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] The Navy Speaks: Bubsy is Public Domain
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
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> 
> Shipmates,
> 
> I have contacted several staff members in the Office of the Oceanographer of 
> the Navy, and they have all assured me that Busby's 1976 Manned Submersibles 
> is Public Domain.  What this means is that anyone, anywere can make unlimited 
> copies, post the document on the internet, or even make copies to sell at a 
> profit, (which has in fact been done with the blessing of the Navy).  Public 
> domain means this document belongs to the public, not to Busby, and not even 
> to the Oceanographer of the Navy.
> 
> When I asked Gail S. Cleere of Public Affairs if she would mind if we posted 
> the entire document on the psubs website, she indicated that she would be 
> "grateful" if we would provide that service.  She would love to be able to 
> keep the document in print, but simply lacks the funds.  
> 
> Private sector folks often focus on the "nabster" or "pirate" side of 
> copyright, where vandals steal the knowledge of others without due 
> compensation.  But those of us in the public sector are very sensitive to the 
> other side of the coin.  Public Domain documents that should be available to 
> the taxpayers who funded their development, but which are unavailable because 
> the government libraries are underfunded.  The Oceanographer of the Navy gets 
> only 5-6 requests for Busby each year, which is simply not enough to justify 
> keeping the book in print.  They wish they could keep every book in print.
> 
> I received an e-mail from the webmaster of the Office of the Oceanographer of 
> the Navy just tonight, asking if he could have permission to put the psubs 
> link on his website, on the FAQ page.  In other words, when any person 
> worldwide goes to the Office of the Oceanographer of the Navy and wants a 
> copy of Busby, they will be linked to PSUBS by the U.S. Navy.  
> 
> Now I personally think that is way cool, but this is not my website...Ray 
> owns this website.  So you (Ray) need to let me know whether you want to be 
> the Navy's official Busby site or not.  I am sure someone else will host it 
> if you are not interested.  You will be under no obligation to the Navy, but 
> will certainly get a lot of attention.  You need to decide whether you want a 
> lot of attention.
> 
> I have access to a pretty good scanner at work, so I will spend the next 
> month running all 764 pages of Busby through the scanner.  By then I am sure 
> we will have someone who will be willing to host this for the 
> Navy...hopefully Ray.  Once this thing is on the web, everyone in the psubs 
> community will have equal access to (IMHO) the only comprehensive PSUB 
> document ever written.
> 
> Just for the record, my primary contact was:
> 
> MS. Gail S. Cleere, Public Affairs
> Oceanographer of the Navy
> 3450 Massachusettes Avenue, NW
> Washington, DC 20392
> (202) 762-1045, Fax 762-0480
> Cleere.Gail@HQ.NAVY.MIL
> 
> Her last day is today.  She is replaced by Senior Chief Robert Freeman on 
> Tuesday.  I am in contact with him as well.  I have included this information 
> for the archives, not so the Navy will be flooded with questions from 
> individual PSUBBERS.  I ask that you please continue to allow me to be the 
> sole point of contact between PSUBS and the Navy on this issue, at least for 
> now.  I believe it will avoid confusion.  Once the Busby book is linked and 
> on-line, I will bow out and you can have at the Navy all you want.  Deal?
> 
> Ray, please let me know if you want to be on the Navy website.  I will 
> contact you on technical issues as they arise.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Doug Farrow