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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Flywheels

  Being the curious type I am, I wandered over to
their website.  Call me skeptical, but I fail to see
what advantages this thing would have over two
counter-rotating flywheels.  I'm also pretty amazed
they would actually make claims like 

"...Unlike its predecessor, the wheel, the rotor does
not fly apart at extreme rotational speeds, it only
becomes more stable!"

  I'm curious about one other thing - If this sucker
spins in a wobbly fashion, how in hell do they support
it??  Magnetic field ?? ( A battery you have to plug
into a 220VAC line to run your can opener for an
hour??)... hmm... 

Indeed




--- Karl Fuller <fullerk@voyager.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi guys!,
> I have a bit to say about flywheels.....
> 
> But first, you know that slightly nervous, slightly
> warm fuzzy feeling you
> get when it is someone else's computer you hear
> about, that crashes, well it
> happened to me.
> 
> I have some advice.
> 1) When you get that small glitch, that is a pain
> only, in Windows,
> remember, IT COULD BE WORSE !
> 2) When a well intention friend/relative says they
> can fix it, even if you
> ask them 3 times "are you sure?" DON'T believe them
> !
> 3) When they say afterwards "You learn by these
> things " LEAVE the room
> before they get shot !
> 4) And of course, it isn't always ' the other guy it
> happens to,' so back
> things up !
> 
> After reading 145 PSUB emails ! I'm catching up.
> 
> Flywheels,
> In New Zealand a few years ago, at a work site in a
> paper mill I was working
> at, I heard one of those too good to be true
> stories, I had to check out !
> A guy was selling shares for what could the first
> "true" kinetic battery and
> he had it patented ! (Inertialess technologies)
> I found out where the research laboratory was, and
> booked in a visit. I was
> given a guided tour, by a physicist. He showed me
> heaps of clippings, of
> validations from NASA scientists, and leading
> scientists in kinetic
> batteries. As well, there were clippings of
> theories, that have
> ramifications for space travel, batteries for
> satellites for when they are
> on the "dark side", and many more profound
> implications.....
> The present state of their development which I saw
> for myself, was the
> making of water driven power generators, for the
> third world. For this they
> had backing from a Chinese company, that makes 'rare
> earth' magnets. First,
> let me explain this flywheel. It is shaped like a
> ball, but has a mushroom
> scallop out of it's circumference. The formulae for
> it's shape is extremely
> critical apparently. So much so, that an engineering
> firm, that was making
> the first trial balls, built one to the slightly
> wrong dimension, spun it up
> with some air (as they do at the research place) and
> it went straight
> through a brick wall ! (apparently)
> Anyway, there is something unique about the correct
> one, when it is spun up,
> and I was to be given a demo. On a low glass table
> before me, the demo was
> set up. I must say, my face was very close to it and
> so was that of the
> demonstrator. But he looked non-concerned and I
> looked for holes in walls
> around me, could see none, and watched it being spun
> up before my eyes. As
> it hummed away, the guy showed me what made it
> special. He had painted
> colored dots on the ball and to my amazement, you
> could see that it didn't
> spin like a flywheel, but actually spun in two
> directions ! That's how he
> explained it and that is how it looked.
> Anyway, they make them out of rare earth and
> generate a current from them as
> they are spun in a chamber, by water. This I saw
> although I was not
> convinced, that a 'Pelton wheel', would not be more
> efficient for that
> application. They are selling them apparently.
> Last thing I heard, scientists were coming from
> around the world, to put
> together what they hoped would be the first true
> Kinetic Battery.
> There is one thing I was told I need to tell you.
> This flywheel they say, no
> matter how fast you spin it, doesn't fly
> apart......They even say, that it
> draws energy in, the faster it goes. Like many of
> you (I'm sure are) I'm
> skeptical.They also told me that they went to a bank
> for a loan to develop
> it, and the next thing they new, Boeing Corp. was
> offering them millions to
> sell the technology.
> I really do have to follow this up, when I get back
> to NZ and keep you all
> posted !
> 
> It's a long shot, but who knows the long term
> ramifications for PSUBS if it
> is all not an elaborate hoax. But if what I saw was
> correct, there it was,
> spinning in two planes, I walked out of that place a
> little stunned ......
> 
> Good to see all the good content lately. GMs, Fords,
> nothing is different,
> even in NZ. Is there an acceptable position, to be
> impartial to either ? (In
> NZ and Australia, GMs are called Holdens, and they
> look different, like
> Fords, different models.
> 
> From Down Under,(but still in Atlanta)
> Kiwi Karl.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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