In a message dated 7/19/00 12:05:33 AM, heinzind@cadvision.com writes: << dale.. by the way, does any one have an idea for an extendable toung on a trailer?? dale. >> Dale, The only improvement on the cable I can think of is to use a bumper mounted winch and wind her up and down. I've done that with George's old truck and it grinds slow but sure up and down the South Thomaston ramp. Vance