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[PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Legislation (was: P-space)
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:49:56 -0600 David Buchner <buchner@wcta.net>
writes:
>At 0603 -0600 01/19/2000, Michael B Holt wrote:
>>As far as I know, even now, only space is totally outside [FAA]
control.
>>And ballistic missiles do not have to be certified to fly.
>
>But don't forget the Treaty on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space, which
>is being used to argue against commercial endeavors and property
>rights off Earth -- because the Whole Rest of the Universe belongs "to
>all mankind"...
Yeah, that's right. I was thinking of just the FAA: local stuff.
The rest of the universe belongs to all mankind? Gee, I hope there's
no one else out there who might not feel that way about it. Odds are
that no matter where we humans go, some of us will stake claims
and defend them.
>>There was an attempt in the 60s to regulate research submarines, but
>>it went nowhere.
>
>But didn't the Scientologists get into some kind of regulatory trouble
>for deciding they were going to purchase a fleet and take to the seas
>to avoid taxes? Aren't there "international laws" about what private
>parties can and can't do on the sea? (weapons... needing some kind of
>licensed skipper, etc.)?
Well, yes, there are rules covering activities on the high seas. I'm
not
sure there are any international laws about weapons: I think each
country has sufficient reason to control that sort of thing internally.
>I'm just saying that if you wanted to get away from all control of all
>governments, renamed yourself Hagbard Celine, and loaded up your big
>sub with hydroponic gardens to grow food, a crew of volleyball-playing
>girls to run everything, and shoulder-launched missiles to defend
>yourself against pirates, and declared yourself Sovereign, the Leaders
>of the World would quickly mobilize to Do Something about you. No?
And that's probably why no one has ever accomplished anything like that
on a large scale. The best way to succeed as a rebel is to rebel with
discretion, and quietly.
But I did once ask how I could have my own country. The U.S. State Dept
laughed at me, but the British Embassy was cheerfully helpful in finding
a way to start a new country.
>I'll stop it now, because this could easily stray into excessivelist
>traffic that's not-about-building-subs... ;-)
It might not be *totally* irrelevant -- who among us hasn't thought about
a Captain Midnight secret headquarters for a submarine? -- but this
has very little to do with design and construction of u-boats.
Michael B. Holt Oregon Hill, Richmond,
Virginia, U.S.A.
"The art of the thing is to make it all look easy." --Frank
Mulville
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